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Are there any gay friendly Episcopal churches in Edinburgh?

Someone said something to me earlier this week which quite shocked me. They said there was no Episcopal congregation in Edinburgh which was welcoming to LGBT people.

By this, they did not mean that there was an absence of any Episcopal congregations with happy gay people in them. That is clearly not so. The question is, is there any such church which says publicly either by saying so on its website or its literature that LGBT people are welcome or which runs an LGBT group or equivalent which it advertises?

Before we all get ourselves in a tiz saying, “Oh, my church welcomes everyone, we say we welcome everyone therefore we must by definition welcome gay people…” just think it through. You don’t have to spend very long in the company of any group of gay people before you hear someone express the view that they’ve been negatively treated by some church or religious body or another. Also, though churches say that everyone is welcomed, it doesn’t stop them welcoming people explicitly who are for example, students, men, children, fabulous sopranos etc. Saying you welcome everyone is wonderful and I’m sure that lots do. Actually saying you welcome LGBT folk is quite another thing and appears to be considerably more rare.

Anyone want to make nominations.

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21 responses to “Are there any gay friendly Episcopal churches in Edinburgh?”

  2. MadPriest Avatar
    MadPriest

    This is hardly surprising as all the gay priests of Edinburgh have now moved to Glasgow for some reason.

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    1. kelvin Avatar
      kelvin

      No, Fr Madpriest.

      Nothing ever moves from Edinburgh to Glasgow, not even for a day out. Only the other way round. It is one of the Laws of the Universe.

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  3. Robin Avatar
    Robin

    > Though speaking of welcoming people regardless of their sexual orientation is starting to sound a little old fashioned, I think.

    Well, we have been described as “overtaken liberals” at St C’s. But our congregational heart is in the right place and we *do* make our welcome and affirmation for LGBT people explicit. And, dare I say it, it’s probably the least camp, giggly and/or spikey congregation imaginable. Much more typical was a Blessing for two of our number, when the Edinburgh gay rugby team thronged the church wearing the kilt…..

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    1. kelvin Avatar
      kelvin

      Be still my beating heart.

      You’re quite right though – the heart and the kilt firmly in the right place at St Columba’s.

      You’re right about camp going out of the window too.

      I’m not camp at all myself. Personally.

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    1. kelvin Avatar
      kelvin

      Hurrah for OSP, thanks for the link. I’m not convinced by your comment that the welcome (which is real) has been explicit for years though.

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  6. kelvin Avatar
    kelvin

    Oh yes, Dougal. Well done for finding that. Quite right about class.

    Does any Edinburgh church offer to welcome people regardless of schooling?

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  7. Robin Avatar
    Robin

    Don’t forget which Edinburgh church shared Fr Kelvin’s courage in inviting Bishop Gene Robinson to preach 😉

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    1. kelvin Avatar
      kelvin

      With regards to Bishop Gene, Robin I think it is just one and a half cheers for St Columba’s because the congregation were told to keep the invitation a complete secret.

      Now, one might posit the view that asking a congregation to keep something top secret is excellent mission planning, but I suspect that in this case, it wasn’t quite like that.

      I think that the fear was that the press might find out, but as I’d invited the press to come to the service over here and lined them up for interviews (with me and with +G), trying to keep them in the dark about his visit to Edinburgh seemed a little odd….

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  8. Robin Avatar
    Robin

    > Does any Edinburgh church offer to welcome people regardless of schooling?

    I do remember one Mass at Spikey Mike’s when Fr Kevin announced that all six servers (including the boat boy) were, or had been, at Heriot’s……

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  9. Robin Avatar
    Robin

    > the congregation were told to keep the invitation a complete secret.

    But in true Columban fashion we disobeyed orders. I certainly told everyone I thought might be interested and it was a very proud and happy occasion for me and for many others.

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  10. Hermano David | Brother Dah•veed Avatar
    Hermano David | Brother Dah•veed

    Scots Pisky jargon here today; spikey, boat boy, etc.

    I’m not camp at all myself. Personally.
    Father K, we have all seen the wedding show photos. More than once.

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