• Church of Scotland Debate

    I’ve spent much of today listening to the Church of Scotland’s General Assembly debating their Special Theological Commission that had been set up a couple of years ago to report on the way forward for that church with regard to the possibility of gay people to be ordained and inducted and to have their partnerships blessed by that church.

    Three proposals emerged. The first two were in the report itself and labelled rather unsatisfactorily as the Revisionist (option A) and the Traditionalist (option B) position. Option A allows what tends to be called a mixed economy by which that church could eventually allow ministers in civil partnerships to be appointed to churches and gay couples in civil partnerships to be allowed to have their partnerships blessed. Option B would not though anyone who happened to be in a Civil Partnership already would probably not be hounded out of their ministry but no new minister in a civil partnership could be inducted or ordained. The third position emerged during the day and was moved in the name of Albert Bogle. (Confusingly it was option D – another motion C had been proposed and then was withdrawn during the process). This option D was a proposal to reaffirm the traditionalist view on these matters whilst allowing individual Kirk Sessions to opt to do as they like and choose such a minister anyway.

    In each case, these were not final votes. The procedures of the Church of Scotland mean that where there are significant changes accepted by a General Assembly they then have to be put to the presbyteries of the church. The final position only emerges if a majority of presbyteries concur during the subsequent year and also the next General Assembly confirms the vote. (If a majority of the presbyteries do not concur then the process fails).

    Option B fell in the first round of voting.

    The commissioners of the Assembly then opted for Option D.

    My own feeling is that this was a very hastily patched together compromise that is an astonishing move for the church to make.

    It effectively means that the Church of Scotland has chosen by 340 to 282 to go down a path which delays the decision for another year and which is theologically incoherent and unexamined by the Commission which had been set up to consider these matters.

    It means that the Church of Scotland has affirmed that it believes something whilst also giving permission to kirk sessions in the church to ignore that doctrine and do something diametrically opposed to what the church says it believes. It is not merely an untidy compromise, it is ecclesiastically and theologically incoherent.

    The Church of Scotland became more congregational in its polity today. Some may feel that there are frightening implications for those in that church who support the ordination of women as ministers and elders. What else is going to become a matter of congregational choice?

    All this now goes to presbyteries under the Barrier Act. (After next year’s Assembly, if I’ve understood this right).

    It may be that some will leave the Church of Scotland because they have affirmed a plan that would allow that church to have gay ministers in some congregations even though the church has affirmed that doctrinally it believes that this is wrong.

    It seems to me quite likely that presbyteries may refuse to affirm the proposal.

    This matter was not resolved in either direction in the Church of Scotland today.

11 responses to “Changing the mobile”

  1. Tim Avatar

    Variously:

    Google Sky;
    Either Catch(.com) or Springpad (see springpadit.com – currently preferred);
    Handcent (SMS);
    FBReader or Aldiko (eBook readers);
    Wikitude / Layar (augmented reality);
    Connectbot (ssh client);
    MyTracks (GPS tracking on steroids), Foursquare;
    AppBak (save/restore lists of things installed);
    Advanced Task Killer (kill processes).

    Welcome aboard 🙂

  2. kelvin Avatar

    Thanks Tim. I found google sky already. Indeed, it was one of the things that persuaded me.

    Now I can see the constellations in the city! Indeed, now I can see the constellations in my bedroom.

  3. Sarah Avatar
    Sarah

    SlideIT – easier way to enter text. Good fun, the predictive side of it can be a bit of a pest so do re-read what you’ve written, although there is the facility to go back to simple ABC input.
    Enjoy the ‘phone!

  4. Kennedy Avatar
    Kennedy

    Lifehacker is always a good source of info for these things.

    http://lifehacker.com/5717356/set-up-and-get-to-know-your-new-android-phone

    Kennedy

  5. agatha Avatar
    agatha

    Nothing to do with phones but I do like the “Want a girlfriend” advertising in the sidebar!

    1. kelvin Avatar

      I’m glad you like whatever you are seeing, Agatha. The ads are served up by a remote server which focusses the ads on the viewer, including whatever you are looking at, where you are and I think also your browsing history.

      Whatever you are looking it is what google thinks should be aimed at you. I see no ads offering girlfriends myself.

  6. ryan Avatar
    ryan

    I do hope I’m not the only one getting “Spy on your boyfriend” ads! 😉

  7. office manager Avatar
    office manager

    Android? Data (trekkie pun intended) could be lost. See story at http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12138790 Good luck.

  8. Hermano David | Brother Dah•veed Avatar
    Hermano David | Brother Dah•veed

    I see no ads, which beats the Scientology ads that I used to see!

    I have nothing to ad because Padre has forbidden it.

  9. Hedge Avatar

    Snap! I got mine just before Christmas.

    Seesmic (for Twitter)
    Guardian Anywhere (downloads while you sleep and can be read while offline)
    Kindle
    Dropbox
    Pocket Common Worship

    I’m also addicted to Wordfeud, or Scrabble by any other name…

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