The Lament Question

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1. kimberly says

   12/08/2009 at 13:56

   ask it in the singular, and the answer is: because you’re a four.

   you’ll have me playing the funeral ikos next.

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2. kimberly says

   12/08/2009 at 13:59

   the other answer is about possibility being revealed in limits.

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3. kelvin says

   12/08/2009 at 14:06

   Its not just me though, and not just fours.

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4. Aaron Orear says

   12/08/2009 at 14:13

   I think because sorrow touches the core of the human condition – we are mortal but can perceive immortality. “He has made everything suitable for its time; moreover he has put a sense of past and future into their minds, yet they cannot find out what God has done from the beginning to the end.” (Eccl. 3:11)

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5. Erp says

   12/08/2009 at 16:44

   I understand Aristotle talks about catharsis and various philosophers have followed up on that idea.

   Perhaps it arouses sadness both from the art itself but also from our own sources festering within and allows us to let go. We feel better for the letting go, the lessening of our own internal sadness, and so perceive the art as beautiful.

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6. RosemaryHannah says

   12/08/2009 at 20:38

   Kimberly was there before me. However, even I, a nine, can sometimes see the beauty in sad things. For me they do two things (may be more but two are most obvious). The first is the catharsis thing. The second is to make me less lonely. Look, here am I weeping, but all around me people sit in the same sorrow. It is not just my sorrow – I am not alone.

   I have long thought there is another answer, one I do not properly understand but I have (I think – and who am I to think it). Deep in God there is a huge well of sorrow. Unless we experience sorrow we cannot understand God. When we sorrow we tap into that well, and become closer to him.

   And being a nice cheerful nine, I will now add that I live in hope that having sorrowed with him, we will share also and even more fully in the joy which swallows the sorrow. Delete this last paragraph from your mind on reading, it will only spoil the joy of the sorrow.

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7. Elizabeth says

   13/08/2009 at 08:54

   Edgar Allan Poe said the most beautiful thing in the world is a beautiful, dead woman. Nice, eh?

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8. Ritualist Robert says

   14/08/2009 at 07:45

   Surely it’s because the concept of beauty is independent from concepts such as ‘sadness’ and ‘happiness’ – just as a G major chord might be loud or soft, but that volume has no effect on its G major-ness.

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9. Steve says

   14/08/2009 at 16:29

   I remember Augustine saying (don’t ask me where) that for a picture to be beautiful it requires dark colours as well as bright.

   There is also a hint of an answer in this poem by Edwin Muir:

   Yet still from Eden springs the root
   As clean as on the starting day.
   Time takes the foliage and the fruit
   And burns the archetypal leaf
   To shapes of terror and of grief
   Scattered along the winter way.
   But famished field and blackened tree
   Bear flowers in Eden never known.

   Blossoms of grief and charity
   Bloom in these darkened fields alone.
   What had Eden ever to say
   Of hope and faith and pity and love
   Until was buried all its day
   And memory found its treasure trove?
   Strange blessings never in Paradise
   Fall from these beclouded skies.

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