Volcano, ash, processions

This volcano business is making a mess of my procession planning for Friday.


  1. Ash Friday, eh?

  2. Ash everyday!

  3. Sackcloth and ashes?

  4. You’d think there’s be a prescribed form of head-covering for the occasion…

  5. I have a lovely lacy parasol that could protect the bishop elect!

  6. David | Dah•veed says

    OK, I am lost. What is happening Friday that merits an out-of-doors procession. A party? What? Share? Inquiring minds would like to know.

    So are you all experiencing an ashfall similar to the folks in Iceland? I am sorry. That makes for the whole outside being dirty, gritty and unpleasant. (We have many active volcanos in Mexico.)

    Here is to hoping it stops, and then that you get a quick, great rainfall Thursday night to wash it all away and dry up with the sunrise.

    • We are consecrating a new bishop on Friday. The closing of so many airports this week has played havoc with the guest list, causing much reviewing of the order of processions and where people will sit.

  7. David | Dah•veed says

    In response to Tim’s comment;


  8. Ooh, does that mean there’s some spare tickets? 😉

  9. I hate those ecclesiastical processions 🙁

    Following our Lord’s comment that the first shall be last and the last shall be first……

    “Oh, I’m much more humble than you – I have to be further back. Lay readers at the front, non-stipendiaries next ……….”

  10. I know, Mike, though there does need to be a way of getting a large bunch of people efficiently into a building and not have them scrambling for seats when they get there.

    Here in Glasgow, the diocesan clergy are not divided into stipendiaries or non-stipendiaries. Nor are people lined up according to the length of their service as clerics, as I’ve seen in some places.

    Although there is a hierarchical element, it is also, here at least, also partly a hierarchy of role in the service. Thus, a number of people (mc, deacon and subdeacon) will all come in behind the College of Bishops.

    Procession here is also different coming out to going in. Going in, the Primus comes at the back, going out the new Bishop will go at the back and the Primus will rejoin the rest of the College.

  11. David | Dah•veed says

    Does your Primus have a primatial staff?

    +TEC’s is much more subtle than +IARCA ‘s.



    I think that +Martín watches TV with his when he is at home. (You could put an eye out with that thang!)

    BTW, Martín survived an assassination attempt a few weeks back.

    And will be stepping down in June.

    • No, the Primus will use the Diocesan Crozier when he enters the church, as he is the Diocesan at that point. Once he is consecrated, the new bishop will use it.

  12. agatha says

    Height is the only neat way to do it surely.

  13. ChickPea says

    Now that’d be tremendous fun – especially if you sorted EVERYONE, regardless of role or outfit, by height – we have some very fine short treble choristers as well as taller varieties of servers, clerics and choristers – some cheat in heels, of course, especially clerics – so you might need to stipulate “polished, black and FLAT” – but, me oh my – once height-arranged, think of the resultant glorious mixed medley of colours……….. and the nightmares of getting the gradations in order !

    (…..and HOURS of endless fun getting them to their designated seats from their processional order…… and probably DAYS getting the order right for getting out again……)

    (…oooooh – what fun there’ll be in heaven, eh !)

  14. Or weight…

  15. ChickPea says

    Wait an’ see it is, then, Provost !

  16. “the Primus will use the Diocesan Crozier when he enters the church, as he is the Diocesan at that point. ”

    Isn’t this a tad metropolitical? I thought SEC was keen to point out that it doesn’t have an archbishop.

    • Well, I might have been overegging it to say that the Primus was the Diocesan. He certainly bears that authority on behalf of the College of Bishops at that moment. The Primus or the College of Bishops can ask another bishop to look after a diocese during an Episcopal vacancy, so it isn’t automatically the Primus. It is also common these days for a Bishops’ Commissary to be appointed in a vacant diocese – someone who has the authority of a bishop to exercise many Episcopal functions. (They can’t ordain or confirm, for example but can make many decisions). In this case, Gregor was the commissary.

      One of the obvious differences in the liturgy in Scotland that results from the absence of a Metropolitan is that after the actual consecration in the service, the Primus steps back and takes his place amongst the rest of the College of Bishops. It is the new Bishop who presides at the Eucharist and comes at the back of the procession on the way out.

      Someone has to look after a diocese during such a vacancy and in our case it was indeed Bishop David.

      There was a time when all the College of Bishops would have carried croziers at a consecration, but now the convention around here seems to be that a bishop only uses a crozier when in his or her own diocese.

      [That’s sticks dealt with, don’t get me started on hats…]

  17. David | Dah•veed says

    I am not sure of Canada’s system, but for those of us with a TEC heritage, the diocesan Standing Committee holds the ecclesiastical authority in the absence of a diocesan bishop and makes the decisions during the interim, but makes arrangements for a bishop (retired, suffragan, neighboring ordinary) to attend to the episcopal functions.

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