• Love your church minister

    No – not me. Well, you can if you like. But more an invitation to head over to Malcolm Round’s blog and read a post that he wrote a couple of weeks ago which has now been read by thousands of people, being copied and referenced all over the web.

    Malcolm has really hit a nerve in writing about how congregations treat their clergy – beginning with this:

    Sadly the Christian church is littered with good people who have left the ministry because of the pain, the criticism, and the lack of support they’ve got from congregations. Some Christians assume they can behave in a church setting in a way they’ve never be allowed to in a work setting. Minister abuse is much more common than is talked about.

    I know exactly what he is talking about and very many clergy will know it all too well.

    Malcolm raises a number of very pertinent questions that I think need a lot of talking about. The most striking questions this piece prompts for me are these:

    • What level of discipline should exist in a voluntary organisation like a congregation, particularly when the congregation has an ethos of inclusion and welcome? After all, churches tend to exist for the purpose of adding more to their numbers. How do they manage anti-social and particular anti-clerical behaviour?
    • In my own denomination, what part does the anti-clericalism that is the unfortunate and entirely unnecessary product of so many of our conversations about affirming lay ministry play in this?
    • Who cares for the pastors of the church and how?

    The bad behaviour that Malcolm talks about leaves him saying:

    Such treatment sadly has become normative in the ordained church life.  Which is one of the reasons I personally will virtually never support anybody going into full-time ‘ordained’ parish ministry.

    When a senior church leader says that then the rest of us ought to be paying attention and carrying on a serious conversation about it. This is important and significant stuff.

    So, hop on over to Malcolm’s blog and take a read.

6 responses to “What the Scottish Episcopal Church is Voting On”

  1. Bro David Avatar
    Bro David

    So does the conscience clause extend only to parishes and priests? Or does it extend to bishops beyond whether they personally choose to officiate a same-sex marriage, but with regard to their diocese? As you know, the US Church allows bishops to decide for their entire diocese. Even though TEC, as a province of the AC, allows same-sex marriage, individual TEC bishops diocesan can disallow same-sex marriage in thier diocese. So there are swaths of TEC with no same-sex marriage and same-sex couples having to look elsewhere for their wedding*.

    I’m not sure where Canada stands on this with regard to bishops diocesan and their dioceses. I know my home church, the Anglican Church of Mexico, ignores this issue currently. LGBT folks haven’t gained a large enough foothold in the Mexican Union to force the issue in churches outside of the massive Roman church.

    *My suggestion to TEC couples is to scout around for a friendly Evangelical Lutheran Church in America parish nearby that may celebrate their nuptials with them and their family & friends. A friendly parish in the North Province of the Moravian Church in America is another option for those living within the North Province’s boundaries. Both those churches allow same-sex marriage and are in full communion with TEC. (The Alaska and the South Provinces of the Moravian Church have not yet allowed same-sex marriage.)

    1. Kelvin Avatar

      The bishops have agreed that this will apply to the whole church. My understanding is that the conscience clause will not extend to bishops declining to authorise people. I know that a bishop who has voted against the legislation has assured me that there would be no problem in clergy in his diocese being nominated to conduct such weddings. The principle that one person’s conscience can’t trump another person’s conscience applies.

  2. Mark Hunter Avatar
    Mark Hunter

    Godspeed to you and the Scottish Episcopal Church, Kelvin. I wish you the best – an American brother. BTW, you do know that we still wear the St. Andrews cross in the shield of the Episcopal Church of the US. It isn’t for nothing.

  3. Susan Cooper Avatar
    Susan Cooper

    An excellent and clear article.

  4. Guy Avatar
    Guy

    Glad the vote went the way it did, though scarily close in the House of Clergy. Would I be being presumptious if I said that things can only get better from now on…….?

  5. Catherine Shelley Avatar
    Catherine Shelley

    Delighted to hear the result of the vote and to read this compassionate, principled and sensible reflection. Best wishes and prayers as you move forward; this English clergywoman is certainly tempted to consider applying for a move north of the border.

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