• Fake Pope Quote Posts

    One of the more bizarre developments in social media has been the rise in fake quotes from popes appearing online.

    One might think that Roman Catholics would be particularly at the forefront of this kind of activity, but that’s not necessarily the case. Anglicans seem to love a good fake pope quote. I’ve seen them posted by an incredible number of people including several senior clerics.

    I am bewildered as to why people post things and in doing so say something like “Isn’t it amazing that we’ve got a pope who said…?” and don’t pause for a moment to ask whether it might be the case that someone has just made it up. Incredulity might well be a pathway to common sense.

    The sad thing is that there’s plenty of profound things that popes do say that are worth repeating. It seems a terrible shame that Pope Francis might be remembered not for his genius in addressing the Climate Crisis in Laudato Si’ but for a series of invented platitudes about hospital walls.

    Particularly puzzling are those, and again, I have senior clerics in my mind, who post these things and then when told that they are not by the pope in question respond by saying that they are going to leave the post up on social media because it sounds like something the pope might have said or that they agree with the sentiments anyway.

    I can’t think of a clearer example of bearing false witness than leaving something published that you have claimed to be written by someone when you know that in fact it was not.

    But anyway, I have a more entertaining response to this from today than just outraged spluttering on other people’s facebook posts, which is to suggest to anyone desperate for a fake pope quote to post online that they ask ChatGPT to come up with a new one rather than recycling someone else’s.

    Here’s how it goes. You open up ChatGPT and you give it this kind of prompt:

    write a fake quote from Pope Leo XIV that is about 450 words long. Make it sound vaguely plausible but the message is the everyone is welcome in the church, even those who think they are not. Use the kind of language of the self-help and empowerment movement to suggest that the pope wants to change the church and that he alone has a vision to do this.

    And bless it, ChatGPT churns it out beautifully.

    There are many who believe the Church is not for them. They whisper to themselves, ‘Surely not me—not with my past, not with my doubts, not with my wounds.’ But I say to you today: the doors of the Church are not narrow—they are wide. They are not guarded by perfection—they are held open by grace.
    We must move beyond the old habit of exclusion cloaked in the language of tradition. We must stop drawing lines where Christ drew none. The Church is not a sanctuary for the flawless; it is a refuge for the broken, the confused, the seekers, the scarred. If you feel lost, unsure, uncertain of your worth—you are precisely who Christ called. You belong here.
    This is not a time for silence or shadows. It is a time for awakening. Too long have we accepted a Church that feels distant, judgmental, fearful of difference. But the Gospel was never about fear. It was always about radical welcome. About the love that does not check credentials at the door.
    I envision a Church reborn—not in doctrine, but in posture. A Church that speaks less about rules and more about renewal. A Church where questions are not threats but invitations. A Church where you do not have to hide who you are to be loved as you are.
    This vision is not shared by all. Some will say it is too soft, too open, too modern. But I say it is simply faithful—to the Jesus who touched the unclean, who ate with sinners, who forgave before they asked, and who never once said, ‘Come to me, but only if you’ve already cleaned yourself up.’
    I do not seek to dismantle the Church—I seek to return it to its heart. That heart is mercy. That heart is hospitality. That heart is Christ.
    If you are gay, divorced, disillusioned, poor, angry, unsure if you even believe anymore—come. If you have been hurt by the Church, forgotten by the Church, judged by the Church—come. If you are full of joy or full of rage—come.
    You will not find a perfect community. But you will find a people trying—trying to be more like Christ, one small, stumbling step at a time. That is all any of us can do.
    The future of the Church is not behind us in stone and ritual. It is ahead of us—in compassion, in courage, and in the willingness to welcome those who thought there was no place left for them. I have seen this future. And I believe it begins now.”
     
    Isn’t that genius? “Not a time for silence or shadows” – completely meaningless and yet exactly the kind of thing that people love posting. I just love “The future of the Church is not behind us in stone and ritual…”. No pope would ever say that. Priests do tend to like a bit of ritual after all and if any pope got near saying that then I’m sure that they could count on those that surround them to prevent them making a fool of themselves and alienating all their clergy.
     
    “I envision a Church reborn—not in doctrine, but in posture.” Can you imagine anyone other than perhaps a C of E bishop commenting on the latest draft of Prayers of Love and Faith ever saying anything so absurd? Yet I’ve seen plenty of even sillier fake pope quotes purporting to be the real deal.
     
    People do love this kind of thing. And that’s exactly the kind of post that I’ve seen posted and liked and reposted dozens of times in the last few weeks.
     
    Might I suggest that we put a stop to it? For as the medieval pope Kelvinius the First said in 1524…
     
    Let not thine idle hands inscribe falsehoods in the name of the Holy See, for to speak a lie in the voice of Peter is to forge chains for thine own soul. Be on guard for the truth. For the truth shall set you ChatGPTFree.
     
     
    Picture of a Swiss Guard on guard.

8 responses to “Wikipedia”

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    Anonymous

    Wikipedia
    It has occured to me when editting the pages for St Mary’s and the Diocese of G&G that the whole area of adding info to Wikis is a minefield for the unwary. As a rule, I will not add any information to the personal page for anyone living. In my mind that is up to the person in question.

    I have added the list of Provosts – thanks Kelvin for correcting my description of the dual role – and Bishops of the combined see, complete with a picture of the left hand plaque at St Mary’s.

    Kelvin, your observation about the online Britanica, reminds me that as a result of this recent activity on Wikipedia, I have turned to Bishop Goldie’s book on the SEC. I have a second edition, from 1976. Bishop Goldie in the preface to the second edition remarks that the major revision was the addition of the twelth chapter updating the book from the 1951 edition. Is a third edition is order now?

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    Anonymous

    Info on the Living

    The accepted convention on WP is that you are not supposed to edit your own WP entry but to leave it to others.

  3. Elizabeth Avatar
    Elizabeth

    parish confusion

    For the uninitiated, what does the SEC have if not parishes? I mean, it has churches . . . aren’t they parishes?

    I’m confused!

  4. Moyra Avatar
    Moyra

    Charges

    The SEC has charges, the Church of Scotland has parishes.

  5. Moyra Avatar
    Moyra

    And confusion is a perfectly normal state of affairs in all matters to do with the church.

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    Anonymous

    Charges vs Congregations

    In the C of E or the C of S or indeed the RC Church in the UK, a parish usually designates a geographical territory which has a status in either canon or civil law or both.

    Scottish Episcopal Congregations are all gathered communities.

    At various times and in various ways in different SEC dioceses there were attempts to define Pastoral Areas to function as parish-like geographical entities.

    The fundamental geographic territorical entity in the SEC is the diocese. If you ask me, geographical territory is so last century. In the internet age, the very idea is threatened and challenged on all kinds of levels. 

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    Anonymous

    Trophy Spice

    However.

    As I look around the net, I find that on at least one occassion, I’ve posted something written about a bishop which had a trophy spouse and kids line in it, though I think I copied it from someone else. Just goes to show that one can be inconsistent. 

  8. Elizabeth Avatar
    Elizabeth

    To congregate and to solve

    Aha! Thanks for clarifying my confusion. Gathered communities vs. geographical boundaries makes much sense.

    I suspect I picked up the parish confusion (along with countless others) from the source of most of my church knowledge – an amalgam of impressions from English novels and sketchy memories of childhood church activity in the ECUSA (we called the basement room, site of so many ventures and misadventures, the parish hall).

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