• Sermon preached on 17 August 2025. (But should it have a content warning?)

    I wonder whether you have heard of a place called Edinburgh.

    It is a place about 50 miles away from here.

    And it is a wonderful diverse, international city…for at least three weeks a year.

    Now the East of Scotland and the West of Scotland are different one from another.

    Amongst other things, religion is different over there to over here.

    I’ve always said that if you preach the same sermon in Edinburgh and Glasgow and say something funny, in Edinburgh you have to give a warning that there’s a joke coming up by saying, “And that reminds me of a joke…” and only then do they have permission to laugh.

    In Glasgow however… [everyone knows the punchline before you get there]

    Anyways, those three weeks are upon us when Edinburgh is en fete. And yesterday I took myself over for the final service of the Festival of the Sacred Arts that has been running for the last few weeks. I’d missed everything else but there was a special service to round it off in a church not unknown to me, being conducted by a former vice provost also not unknown to me with good music and scattered flower petals and our Blessed Lady Mary much to the fore. And I’d decided it was right up my street.

    So, I looked up the details and decided to go along.

    And something hit me between the eyes when I looked up the details on the Fringe Website.

    It was a warning.

    Alongside every show in the Fringe programme they publish warnings in case you might be upset about something.

    Different shows have different warnings.

    Warning: Offensive language.

    Warning: Graphic nudity from the beginning.

    Warning: Not suitable for under 18s.

    And  Choral Evensong at the end of Festival of Sacred Music bore a clear warning next to its listing.

    I wonder if you could guess what the content warning was for Choral Evensong.

    It said, “Warning: Audience Participation”.

    Now, I think that it is really interesting and really quite funny that you have to warn people that there might be Audience Participation at a service of Choral Evensong.

    I went along and sure enough, forewarned is forearmed.  We were all indeed expected to belt out the hymns.

    How ridiculous I thought, to give such a warning on a website…

    Warning: Audience Participation.

    Warning: Audience Participation.

    Some through faith conquered kingdoms, administered justice, obtained promises, shut the mouths of lions, quenched raging fire, escaped the edge of the sword, won strength out of weakness, became mighty in war, put foreign armies to flight.

    Well, that’s a bit more than belting out a few hymns.

    Warning: Audience Participation.

    Others were tortured, refusing to accept release, in order to obtain a better resurrection. Others suffered mocking and flogging, and even chains and imprisonment. They were stoned to death, they were sawn in two, they were killed by the sword.

    Audience participation.

    Faith has always required audience participation.

    And yes, probably does demand content warnings.

    The great paeon to faith from the Epistle to the Hebrews that we’ve been reading over a couple of weeks is one of the great rhetorical passages of scripture.

    We come, it declares, from a heritage of faith which has made demands. Which has included audience participation of the greatest and most profound kinds.

    The heritage of Christianity should carry content warnings.

    And health warnings.

    And life warnings.

    And yet that is the paradox.

    Even knowing the risks of professing faith in God publicly, people have through centuries lived out their faith through persecution and tribulation.

    For they have found within their faith something worth living and dying for.

    The next bit of Hebrews that we get next week declares that we have come to the City of the Living God.

    Let me give you a content warning.

    To approach that City and to draw close to that Living God is to risk profound change.

    The Christian faith neither promises that everything will be nice, nor that everything will be easy nor that everything in your life will be unchanged if you take it seriously.

    Just the opposite.

    Jesus is laying it on thick in the gospel today. He knew that people living out his message would cause division and not bring immediate unity.

    And he speaks realistically about how that can feel within communities and families where faith is not shared.

    What Christianity offers is change. Change for every one of us who takes it seriously. Change to the world around us. For yes, we hope to see a world transformed and transfigured and born anew.

    We believe in ethical living acknowledging our that we are creatures made in the image of a loving God. And we believe in a Saviour, who taught us to try to be so kind,  so peace-loving and so good that it would enrage a world that is hell bent on a quite different set of values and ethics. And we believe that God’s spirit inspires us to seek ever new ways of proclaiming the kingdom of justice and joy and our beloved saviour announced to the world.

    And yes, we are a people who want others to join in. For this way of living we have found is good for us and good for the world around us.

    If you are trying to put this altogether, and trying to work out what living as one of God’s friends is all about, then come and talk. And remember, we’re going to be running a Christian basics course sometime between now and Christmas where it will be possible to explore the extraordinary claims that the Christian faith makes.

    Perhaps you are trying to work out for yourself a way of living the Christian faith.

    Well, here’s a content warning for you. Audience participation isn’t optional. It is a requirement of being one of God’s beloved.

    And the kinds of things that Christians have encouraged one another in since our Lord himself walked the earth don’t change much through the centuries.

    Learning to worship together and catching a glimpse together of a God who lurks in this world longing to love us more.

    Learning to pray together and learning to pray alone.

    Learning to read scripture with all our God given gifts of intellect and holy common sense.

    Learning to be generous and to recognise that time and money are gifts we have been given that are enriched and not diminished when we in turn give them away.

    Learning to light candles in the darkness. And to see a scattered flower petal as being one square inch of this world where the whole of God’s glory shines.

    Learning to be holy. Learning to love. Learning to be still. Learning to see that the world will only make sense when tyrants and megalomaniacs are toppled over and the lowly lifted up.

    This is the way of life that Jesus invites us to participate in.

    It is not without cost and it is not simply for spectators. It is certainly not for those who never want to join in.

    And we who are Christians believe it is worth heaven and earth.

    For Jesus in his love and compassion simply says this: “Who is with me in this journey? Who will walk in my way?”

    In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.

    AMEN.

15 responses to “Some Bisexuals are Christian (and there’s lots of them)”

  1. Rosemary Hannah Avatar
    Rosemary Hannah

    I never realised I was bi until I fell in love with a woman. I think the essential point I would like to make is that I am not in a relationship with a woman because I fancied making love to a woman from a desire for novelty, nor, especially, because I wanted to make love to a, to some woman. I fell in love with a single, available woman, and a woman who was free to love me, and did love me. One very particular person. And because we love each other, we make love to each other. That, I think, is what some conservatives miss.

  2. Chris Mayo Avatar
    Chris Mayo

    One of the clearest and best reflections on bisexuality and sexual fluidity. A beautiful offering that will speak to the hearts of many. Thank you Kelvin.

  3. Antonio Avatar
    Antonio

    In order for one to have a solid “Christian” argument it must be historically accurate, theological sound, and Spirit-filled. You provided none of these. You did not quote one Scripture, one theologian, or even state that the information that you received was directly from G-d through personal devotion such as prayer.

    What you said was very well written, and reflects growing trends in modern society, but that was all. In order to convince more people you should at least quote St. Augustine or Thomas Aquinas and provide evidence that can be found in the Hebrew Bible, as well as the Greek New Testament.

    Your argument was neither Eastern Orthodox, Roman Catholic, nor Protestant.

    1. Kelvin Avatar

      Bless you for your comment, Antonio. I’m struggling though to think how I could have explained more clearly that I don’t think the bible to be a complete and adequate explanation of modern day human sexuality. For the same reasons, interesting though they are, I don’t think that Augustine nor Aquinas explain it all either.

      And of course, I am neither Eastern Orthodox, Roman Catholic nor Protestant.

    2. JCF Avatar
      JCF

      Can we please-please-PLEASE come to the realization that when a (self-identified) Christian states something, we can just ASSUME that this Christian has been formed in a way that is, FOR THEM, “historically accurate, theological sound, and Spirit-filled”, and go on from there? That not every self-disclosure requires a point-by-point unpacking of First Principles?

  4. Rosemary Hannah Avatar
    Rosemary Hannah

    If I was inclined to be very naughty I might inquire how Antionio can possibly establish the need for a Christian argument to meet his criteria without his calling on the criteria and creating a perfect circle.

    1. Martin W. Avatar
      Martin W.

      It isn’t ‘a perfect circle’. What he said is perfectly clear. The Apostolic Christian faith is based on the teaching of the Apostles, not our perceptions. That faith is found in the New Testament. Kevin, despite his protests(!), is very much a protestant of the modern liberal kind.

  5. Pam Avatar
    Pam

    You’re not Protestant Kelvin?

    Thanks for your thoughts on this subject.

    1. Kelvin Avatar

      No, I’m not Protestant.

      1. Pam Avatar
        Pam

        I’m not sure what I am (faith-wise). It’s a great feeling.

  6. Alan McManus Avatar

    I’m Roman Catholic, I attend St Mary’s and those RC parish churches where I feel welcome (that’s one, in the whole of Scotland, at the moment) I have had relationships with men and with women, I dislike labels but admit they have their uses (I don’t know one bisexual person who doesn’t feel the same) I often am taken for gay and sometimes for strait and I usually don’t bother correcting people. I agree with every word Kelvin has said above and if anyone wants scriptural and other related references they can follow the link I’ve posted.

  7. Alan McManus Avatar

    I mean by clicking on my name. Kelvin can you add a “share this post” button, with options for Facebook, Twitter etc.?

  8. etseq Avatar
    etseq

    The starting premise of this sermon is wrong and poisons everything that follows. Despite the ecstatic headlines promoting the results of two flawed “yougov” surveys, all of the larger, reputable, quantitative polling find the relative percentages of sexual orientation/identity, sexual relations between members of the same sex, and same sex sexual attraction remarkably stable over the last several decades. Yougov is really more of a marketing company than a professional polling firm – the only scientifically legitimate survey work in the UK is done by the government and some universities. So in the US it would be less Pew and more Zogby, with virtually no quality control over the design of the questions and reliance on cheap internet surveys with low response rates and little attempt at a representative sample.
    This particular “survey” doesn’t pass the laugh test, especially the meaningless claim that half of UK youth are “non-heterosexual” (no legit sexuality study would ever be so heterocentric as to lump such a broad range of identities into one binary description) was based on a really bad screening question that prompted for a kinsey number (which is meaningless to most people and leads to guessing). Since the Kinsey scale is range it is similar to other likert scales, which prime respondents to to skew responses towards a median, you can’t reliably use it as a proxy for orientation categories. Even then, the only shift was in the 0-1 kinsey range, which is just as likely a statistical blip than any useful shift in self-identified orientation, desire or behavior.
    Hate to be debbie downer but the gold standard in population surveys in the UK is the British Social Attitudes Survey and like the GSS in the US, the percentages for sexual orientation, same sex behavior and same sex desire have all remained fairly stable over the 30 or so years – 2-4%/6-8%/8-12% for each category, with some slight variations.

    1. Kelvin Avatar

      What sermon?

  9. Kathleen Jowitt Avatar

    First of all, thank you for this post, and apologies for the lateness of this comment. A lot of what you’ve written here resonates – I’m a bisexual Christian, a woman who has been married to a man for the last six years, but who knows that a future partner could be of any gender. For me, being out about my bisexuality is a simple acknowledgement of fact, a matter of integrity and honesty – I look straight, but I’m not, and, while other people’s assumptions about me are their business, it doesn’t hurt to remind them that there are more people in church than ‘gay’ and ‘straight’.

    I would urge caution when using the ‘everyone is bisexual really’ line. (This post is very helpful on the question: http://www.uncharted-worlds.org/blog/2008/12/not-everyone-is-bisexual/) While I don’t think this is the way that you’re using it here, it is often used to silence and erase bisexual experience. Those of us who specifically identify as bisexual experience distinct problems and joys – the internalised biphobia, wondering whether we’re *really* bisexual even after a series of crushes on people of any and all genders, the tedious ‘you’re confused! make your mind up!’ from straight and gay acquaintances alike – and then the relief of meeting someone who *gets* it, who doesn’t question your identity, who accepts your judgement of who you are rather than extrapolating from their own incomplete dataset of what they know and assume of you. I don’t believe that’s something that everyone experiences.

    Not everyone is bisexual; in fact, the only person whose bisexuality I can make a judgement on is my own. It’s only a small step from ‘everyone is bisexual’ to ‘no one is bisexual’.

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