• Fake Pope Quote Posts

    One of the more bizarre developments in social media has been the rise in fake quotes from popes appearing online.

    One might think that Roman Catholics would be particularly at the forefront of this kind of activity, but that’s not necessarily the case. Anglicans seem to love a good fake pope quote. I’ve seen them posted by an incredible number of people including several senior clerics.

    I am bewildered as to why people post things and in doing so say something like “Isn’t it amazing that we’ve got a pope who said…?” and don’t pause for a moment to ask whether it might be the case that someone has just made it up. Incredulity might well be a pathway to common sense.

    The sad thing is that there’s plenty of profound things that popes do say that are worth repeating. It seems a terrible shame that Pope Francis might be remembered not for his genius in addressing the Climate Crisis in Laudato Si’ but for a series of invented platitudes about hospital walls.

    Particularly puzzling are those, and again, I have senior clerics in my mind, who post these things and then when told that they are not by the pope in question respond by saying that they are going to leave the post up on social media because it sounds like something the pope might have said or that they agree with the sentiments anyway.

    I can’t think of a clearer example of bearing false witness than leaving something published that you have claimed to be written by someone when you know that in fact it was not.

    But anyway, I have a more entertaining response to this from today than just outraged spluttering on other people’s facebook posts, which is to suggest to anyone desperate for a fake pope quote to post online that they ask ChatGPT to come up with a new one rather than recycling someone else’s.

    Here’s how it goes. You open up ChatGPT and you give it this kind of prompt:

    write a fake quote from Pope Leo XIV that is about 450 words long. Make it sound vaguely plausible but the message is the everyone is welcome in the church, even those who think they are not. Use the kind of language of the self-help and empowerment movement to suggest that the pope wants to change the church and that he alone has a vision to do this.

    And bless it, ChatGPT churns it out beautifully.

    There are many who believe the Church is not for them. They whisper to themselves, ‘Surely not me—not with my past, not with my doubts, not with my wounds.’ But I say to you today: the doors of the Church are not narrow—they are wide. They are not guarded by perfection—they are held open by grace.
    We must move beyond the old habit of exclusion cloaked in the language of tradition. We must stop drawing lines where Christ drew none. The Church is not a sanctuary for the flawless; it is a refuge for the broken, the confused, the seekers, the scarred. If you feel lost, unsure, uncertain of your worth—you are precisely who Christ called. You belong here.
    This is not a time for silence or shadows. It is a time for awakening. Too long have we accepted a Church that feels distant, judgmental, fearful of difference. But the Gospel was never about fear. It was always about radical welcome. About the love that does not check credentials at the door.
    I envision a Church reborn—not in doctrine, but in posture. A Church that speaks less about rules and more about renewal. A Church where questions are not threats but invitations. A Church where you do not have to hide who you are to be loved as you are.
    This vision is not shared by all. Some will say it is too soft, too open, too modern. But I say it is simply faithful—to the Jesus who touched the unclean, who ate with sinners, who forgave before they asked, and who never once said, ‘Come to me, but only if you’ve already cleaned yourself up.’
    I do not seek to dismantle the Church—I seek to return it to its heart. That heart is mercy. That heart is hospitality. That heart is Christ.
    If you are gay, divorced, disillusioned, poor, angry, unsure if you even believe anymore—come. If you have been hurt by the Church, forgotten by the Church, judged by the Church—come. If you are full of joy or full of rage—come.
    You will not find a perfect community. But you will find a people trying—trying to be more like Christ, one small, stumbling step at a time. That is all any of us can do.
    The future of the Church is not behind us in stone and ritual. It is ahead of us—in compassion, in courage, and in the willingness to welcome those who thought there was no place left for them. I have seen this future. And I believe it begins now.”
     
    Isn’t that genius? “Not a time for silence or shadows” – completely meaningless and yet exactly the kind of thing that people love posting. I just love “The future of the Church is not behind us in stone and ritual…”. No pope would ever say that. Priests do tend to like a bit of ritual after all and if any pope got near saying that then I’m sure that they could count on those that surround them to prevent them making a fool of themselves and alienating all their clergy.
     
    “I envision a Church reborn—not in doctrine, but in posture.” Can you imagine anyone other than perhaps a C of E bishop commenting on the latest draft of Prayers of Love and Faith ever saying anything so absurd? Yet I’ve seen plenty of even sillier fake pope quotes purporting to be the real deal.
     
    People do love this kind of thing. And that’s exactly the kind of post that I’ve seen posted and liked and reposted dozens of times in the last few weeks.
     
    Might I suggest that we put a stop to it? For as the medieval pope Kelvinius the First said in 1524…
     
    Let not thine idle hands inscribe falsehoods in the name of the Holy See, for to speak a lie in the voice of Peter is to forge chains for thine own soul. Be on guard for the truth. For the truth shall set you ChatGPTFree.
     
     
    Picture of a Swiss Guard on guard.

19 responses to “The rules”

  1. Jane Mason Avatar
    Jane Mason

    I am going to need ‘severe’ reprimands about my use of the…. ! …….
    The rest of the rules I promise to obey!

  2. Bro David Avatar
    Bro David

    So how is it that you get your entire congregation to wear black shoes to service? 😀

  3. Kelvin Holdsworth Avatar

    The congregation can wear what they like – the black shoe rule applies only to those in the sanctuary. (By which I’m meaning here the part of of the church at the front that is not the nave rather than the whole building).

    1. David Kenvyn Avatar
      David Kenvyn

      Except of course the part of the cathedral around the Nave Altar where black shoes are mandatory unless they have been taken off for footwashing. Black socks or stockings as well.

      1. Kelvin Avatar

        I was thinking of the crossing as santuary space rather than nave space.

        1. Bro David Avatar
          Bro David

          What part of the building have you lot designated as the Holy of Holies? And whom among you is allowed to enter therein?

          1. Bro David Avatar
            Bro David

            Oh, and do they have to be barefooted?

        2. Kelvin Avatar

          The historical, architectural holy of holies is undoubtedly the area around the high altar. However, the building was reordered around a nave altar before I came here.

          The high altar is never used now. Sometimes a small altar is put in front of it and used for smaller midweek services.

          Those entering that space would normally be those who had business to be there – the bishop (because that’s where is throne is) and clergy and servers at midweek services.

          The reality is that the larger space at the crossing is where it is all going on at the main services.

  4. Mary-Cate Avatar
    Mary-Cate

    Frankly whilst I appreciate black ink for important/official documents I would argue that it falls into a similar category as boring worship. And I ALWAYS wear black shoes in the sanctuary

  5. Kelvin Avatar

    You always passed Shoe Inspection with flying colours, Mary-Cate.

  6. RevRuth Avatar

    And why do you think the Provost is any different to the Priest?

    Black ink for registers. Purple for prose.

  7. Alan McManus Avatar

    2a. No filming or photography in church without prior warning to and permission from the people in the pews. (People in the sanctuary and people right at the font are fair game).

    1. Bro David Avatar
      Bro David

      Have the folks in the Sanctuary and front pews signed some sort of media release?

      1. Kelvin Holdsworth Avatar

        We have photo policies in place with regard to the young choristers when they are on duty, yes.

      2. Alan McManus Avatar

        Font, not front. I mean family and friends around a font usually want to be in the photos.

  8. Pamela Lucas Avatar
    Pamela Lucas

    INK – always believed Registrar’s ink was Blue\Black something to do with its content for being permanent ? Otherwise always Black.. unless you are head of MI6 whom I believe signs their initial in green ink.

    1. Kelvin Avatar

      I think you are thinking of Iron-gall ink, Pamela. Wikipedia does mention it in connection with clergy registers, but I must be honest and say I’ve never seen it myself.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_gall_ink

      1. Pamela Lucas Avatar
        Pamela Lucas

        http://www.registrarsink.co.uk/registrars_ink.html

        This is what we used, and when we had our inspection, they checked our ink / registers. its Blue/Black. Our register started in 1571 … think no matter what colour ink when it gets to 2000 they will have more bother with the curate’s hand writing as no one ever taught me to use a fountain pen .. went to a school that did pencil and bic biro pens. something for the TISEC curriculum Calligraphy.

  9. Gordon Avatar

    Fell onto this page looking for info on the rules for wedding schedule signing. Just thought I would say that there is no such thing as a permanent fountain pen ink. If there was it would clog the pen. The myth of permanence was started by Parker, who used to bottle some ink as “washable” and some as “permanent”. The advantage of an iron gall ink is that you can’t wash it all out. I think all Diamine brand inks are iron gall based, not just their registrars ink.

    Using fountain pen ink on an envelope means it can be washed out by the rain, but if you rub the address with a candle it waterproofs it.

    Meanwhile, does anyone know what the registrar general rules are on ink for marriage schedules? I am assuming black.

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