• What people are looking for

    The following search terms have all brought people to my blog in the last month:

    • Lucy Winkett married (I’ve no idea)
    • friendship as sacrament (if only the churches were this wise)
    • Old St Paul’s homosexuality (A number of searches on this one suggesting that people are not finding what they are looking for from their website)
    • health guidelines for thuribles (Keep it clean and use the ethanol to clean the inside. And do it outside)
    • humorous reading for mothers’ union (I’m saying nothing)
    • can you get a 4 berth sleeper on scotrail caledonian sleeper (I think you can – 2 adjacent apartments with an open internal door)
    • evensong gaidhlig (because Evensong is not esoteric enough)
    • believing that god has a plan for us all (Ah, probably best not coming to me for this one, I don’t)
    • can you have a christening during lent in anglican faith (oh yes – great preparation for Easter)
    • he has a unique plan for us (Oh no he doesn’t….)
    • Episcopal churches Edinburgh (I’m probably not the primary source on this one)

32 responses to “Sign seen”

  1. Robin Avatar
    Robin

    What was the character of the debate? If one believes that the admission of women to the threefold ministry of the Church was an extension of an existing doctrine, not a doctrinal change, and that the dropping of the ‘filioque’ clause from the Creed wasn’t a doctrinal change either (nobody is compelled to deny that the Holy Ghost proceeds from the Son), the change to the doctrine of initiation was the most important doctrinal change made by the Scottish Episcopal Church not just in my lifetime but perhaps even in the SEC’s history. It amazes me that it seems to have been so uncontroversial.

  2. Robin Avatar
    Robin

    (I don’t say I necessarily disapprove of the change. I’m quite happy not only for the unconfirmed but also for the unbaptised to be admitted to Holy Communion and would turn away no-one – except perhaps ++Judas Williams, and even then probably not – from the altar. But I can’t understand how a Church can teach two contradictory things at once.)

    1. kelvin Avatar

      To a certain extent, saying two contradictory things at once is part of the consequence of having old liturgical formularies alongside modern ones, I think.

      (If you are not going to say something new, what’s the point in producing something new after all).

      The modern descriptions of marriage in the 2007 marriage rite don’t seem to me to be entirely consistent with the marriage rite of 1929, for example.

      It is the way we live now.

  3. kelvin Avatar

    Well, as I said, there were several of us who spoke against the change, for one reason or another but it was passed by a fairly high majority, I think.

    It seems to me that there is just about every view about initiation into the Christian church that has ever been held is currently also held and practised in the Scottish Episcopal Church. Indeed, there are varieties of practice and procedure within congregations and even within families.

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