• That Damn Magnificat

    A sermon preached in St Mary’s Cathedral on Good Friday 2022

    There’s something about spending these three hours in a church dedicated to Mary.

    Through the year, we often get particular joy from keeping the Marian festivals. We’ve got more music in the choir library about her than about any of the others who accompanied Jesus in this life.

    We sing with her the Magnificat every Sunday at evensong. We share her joy. We share her hopes for a world turned upside down. Where the mighty would what they deserve. At last.

    In a church dedicated to Mary, because we pay attention to her, we get a unique insight into her Son Jesus. Because she was there. There at the beginning when he was born. There when he taught the learned teachers in the temple. There sometimes when he was teaching the rather more thick disciples and the adoring crowds. There when he performed the the first miracle – water into wine.

    What did she think when that one happened?

    Go my son. That’s the world we want. A world put right. A world where God breaks in and joy breaks out.

    But the trouble for us is that having accompanied her through all of this, we now find ourselves in his company again.

    Mary stands at the foot of the cross. It is almost unimaginable that she was able to stay. But presumably unimaginable for her to leave until it is over.

    And a few other women comfort her and stand beside her in her agony.

    And John, the beloved. He’s there too. Ready to take her in.

    We enter into Mary’s experience when the going is good. How on earth do we enter into her experience today.

    Can we see this day through her eyes or is it entirely beyond what we can bear to think of?

    It is common in newsgathering to tell the story of disasters through the tears of parents weeping for their children. Mothers particularly.

    A whole war may be too much to take in. A whole nation invaded is expressed in arrows on a map, nothing more. A whole cities get bombed and we struggle to know one from another. It happens over there.

    But a mother’s tears at a crucifixion…

    Harder to ignore. Harder to walk on by.

    Theological concepts are broken by the crucifixion.

    Theories of how we are reconciled to God circle the crucifixion scene like vultures.

    They are too big to grasp. And they offer no comfort to a mother weeping either.

    What does she think as she stands there?

    Can she think? Can she process this?

    Raw. Present. The pain. The agony. The tears.

    Three hours is long enough to think. This is a cruel death for those being crucified. This is a cruel death for those watching.

    I’ve been haunted by a question this year as I try to keep company with Mary at the cross.

    Did she hold fast to what she had believed about God – all the things that she had taught him?

    Or did it all break down on that day?

    One of the things that I love about Mary is that her spirituality seems to be about two things which she ties together.

    The world being put right is one of her themes.

    And the joy of singing God’s praises is another.

    Now you can find plenty of other saints who loved those things. But Mary uniquely brings them together.

    My soul magnifies the Lord. And my spirit rejoices in God my saviour.

    He has shown the strength of his arm. And the proud and the mighty and the rich have got their comeuppance at last.

    It is joyful spirituality. Full of cheek and full of fun.

    And oh, how often when I hear Jesus giving clever answers that bring God right into the lives of people who need God most, or when I see him turning over the tables of those who are corrupt, I think, I bet he got that from her.

    But as she stands at the cross, what on earth goes through her head.

    What questions does this hell scene raise for her.

    Does she keep repeating to herself again and again, “The mighty will be brought low. The mighty will be brought low. The mighty will be brought low”.

    Or is it worse than that.

    Does she loose faith with it all today?

    As she looks on and smells death all around her does she call on God.

    We have no words from Mary on Good Friday. Nothing is recorded from her.

    I don’t know what she said.

    But I guess that had it been me, I wouldn’t be singing of the goodness of God nor of a world put right.

    I’d be thinking, “Shit! The bastards have won. I wish I’d never brought him up the way I did. What could I have done differently? I should have taught him to keep his mouth shut more.

    That damn Magnificat. Look where it has got him.

    I sang, God has filled the hungry with good things.

    But I’ve not eaten in hours and I never want to eat again. My stomach is in knots as he twists and turns in agony.

    I sang, from this day all generations will call me blessed.

    But from this day all generations will call me cursed.

    I sang about God sending the rich and the mighty and the powerful away empty.

    But they’ve won. They’ve won. They’ve beaten him.

     

    `I sang, He has come to the help of his servant Israel.

    But God hasn’t come to his aid. He hasn’t turned up at all.

    I sang about the promises that God had made to our forebears to Abraham and his children forever.

    But he has forgotten me today.

    It is finished.

    My song is finished.

    And I’ll never sing again.

12 responses to “Do you believe that God intervenes in the world?”

  1. Mark Chambers Avatar
    Mark Chambers

    I think this is probably the best way to think about prayer. When you say the world is affected by praying people, are you saying there is a link between prayer and improved behaviour or increased charity etc ?

    1. kelvin Avatar

      Well, I guess if I think that I’m changed by prayer, I probably hope that it affects me for the better.

      I might even be prepared to say that unless prayer changes the person praying, it probably isn’t being done right at all.

  2. Dyfed Avatar

    Thanks for this thoughtful piece.

    I agree with you wholeheartedly that prayer is about me being silent before God for a moment. Such a silence is so necessary in the midst of our busy lives and busy minds.

    But I do believe in healing – physical, emotional, and spiritual. I have no experience of physical healing but I have plenty of experience of the emotional kind. As someone who was left very angry and full of shame following an episode of abuse as a young child, I have certainly known God’s love wash away those feelings as I have been prayed for by friends.

  3. Ruth Richards-Hill Avatar
    Ruth Richards-Hill

    Before I ever ventured into the concept of prayers being answered, my journey took me to a place where I asked myself “who or what is this G-d I am communicating with?”

    My idea of g-d has nothing to do with an old man with a long beard sitting in the clouds looking down on us, but rather a positive spiritual consciousness that we are all connected to.

    When I pray I tap into this consciousness and often prayer, when used as a form of meditation, brings to me the answers I need, even sometimes realising that they are not rhe answers I want.

    Does g-d intervene? In my interpretation definitely yes. But not necessarily in the way we traditionally expect. Intervention from G-d in my life has always involved realisations as to how I should deal with the very personal things I pray about and for. I have often cleared my mind for prayer in Church and found unthought of solutions to my problems come rushing into the void.

    As for tangible interventions such as g-d curing cancer, I think we find ourselves dealing with similar spiritual issues such as destiny, freedom of choice and the like which become interwoven with our concept of prayer and its use and usefulness.

    I do believe prayer brings healing too, but I could write a blogpost of my own about that.

    The question is a huge one, and if we can accept that the answer we get is not always the one we’re seeking then the value of prayer becomes priceless, regardless of our religious/spiritual path.

    I dont comment often, but I couldnt resist replying, sorry for the long reply.

  4. Rosemary Hannah Avatar
    Rosemary Hannah

    What do we mean by ‘intervene’??

    Not perhaps a foolish question. Let me put it another way, or rather let me borrow from Terry Pratchett/Neil Gaiman the words they put in the mouth of their sorely tempted (to save the world) Christ figure, a small boy: ‘Seems to me, the only sensible thing is for people to know that it they kill a whale they’ve got a dead whale.’ I am fond of saying that God lets us run around barefoot in the snow until we see the good sense in wearing wellies in it. The only way the world works is if it has consequences.

    That said, I think there are ways he does intervene.

    As regards prejudice – I’m with Shaw and Pratchett on that too – thoughts are too powerful to be let to run into paths which corrupt and anything that stops us seeing the equal worth of the life and love of another is downright evil. While people are made miserable, or made to suffer consequences, because their skin is one or another colour, or they love their own gender, or anything else which stops us valuing the person before us, then we can never let such attitudes breed in ourselves, or go unchallenged when they pass before us, whatever the cost. This is a quite different thing from disagreeing on matters which are almost certainly so complex that we struggle to understand them almost as much as my dogs struggle to understand when happens when I to work, and how that links into the bowls of food which turn for breakfast each day.

  5. Mark Chambers Avatar
    Mark Chambers

    Far be it from me to say what is and isn’t god or to doubt your experience but it could be said that your example of intervention is a common result from any meditation, religious or otherwise.

    1. kelvin Avatar

      Yes, that’s right.

      But that doesn’t prove a great deal either. It could simply show that God is with those who least suspect that God is with them. (Which would fit rather with some of the ways in which Christians do understand God).

  6. RevRuth Avatar

    Just came across this…
    Lord, I do not presume to tell you what to do,
    or how and when to do it.
    I simply bring before you
    people who need your love,
    and needs which your grace alone can meet.
    Let love reign, O my God.
    Let grace avail.

  7. Rosemary Hannah Avatar
    Rosemary Hannah

    All the same, I do not wholly discount the possibility that God might have so structured things that he does actually need our help in praying for actual events (healing eg.)

    IF there IS ‘non-medical healing’ (and plenty of people believe in it) it would be just like God to so structure it that it is hard for him to do alone. He has, after all, structured justice that way, and absolutely enjoined us to join him in pursuing it. (FWIW, I believe that in the parable it is God who is the Importunate Widow).

  8. Tim Avatar

    I’m inclined to agree.

    Panentheistic immanence implies God is already *in* (and, indeed, permeating through) the world so the idea of intervention becomes moot.

  9. Rosemary Hannah Avatar
    Rosemary Hannah

    I believe that above all God really really wants us to grow up, take responsibility and help in his work – I believe most things are set up to draw us into this.

  10. Rosemary Hannah Avatar
    Rosemary Hannah

    I like that Tim – I think that yes ‘intervention’ fails to grapple with immanence.

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