• Synod Review – things you might have missed

    Here’s a quick review of some of the most significant things that took place at the recent General Synod of the Scottish Episcopal Church beyond the headline grabbing news that we rejected the Anglican Covenant.

    • I was heartened to hear a bishop call for an anti-bullying policy. My first “maiden” speech at General Synod, many years ago was about the bullying that I perceived to be being exercised during my training both towards ordinands and amongst members of staff. All those years ago there was a spat about whether such a speech should even be recorded in the minutes. (In the end it was not recorded accurately and I voted against the adoption of the minutes the following year). This year, Bishop Nigel gave a very clear call for a policy to deal with situations of bullying in church circles. It was good to hear and comes not before time.
    • I think another significant moment was when one of the Bishops referred to having social events for “clergy and their spouses or partners”. Synod heard this news with nonchalant ease, wondering, I suspect what kind of wine and nibbles were served. Yet it is a significant small mercy that a Scottish Bishop can refer so easily to inviting gay clergy and their partners around to Bishop’s House for something so eye-wateringly, mind-bogglingly conventional as a Friday night social with a quiz. It is by such small mercies that great social change happens. It was one of the moments when the sky did not fall in and indeed, no-one seemed to have noticed that there was any risk that it might do so.
    • It was good to hear the Primus robustly respond to some of the things that were being said in the debate about ministry. There were calls for more non-stipendiaries working “not in the parish but in the world” and also for us to focus on those who have “life-experience” to be sought for ministry and not those coming “straight from college who know nothing about the world”. The Primus was having none of it and reminded the synod in no uncertain terms that those entering the ministry late in life often need a great deal of help coping with an institution which is greatly unlike other work places. He also asked where our leadership and future bishops were going to come from if we ended up not having life-long ministries as a key part of the way in which the church functions. Personally, I found the ministry debate one of the more depressing parts of they synod – the usual tired voices arguing for their same pet projects. There did not seem to be much life there.
    • The rather disappointing launch of the rather disappointing new Grosvenor Essay about same-sex relationships. Disappointing because we were not able to discuss it at all. Disappointing too because the authors appeared to have consulted theologians, historians, scientists – everyone in fact except gay couples living in same-sex relationships or indeed LGBTQ identified theologians. It wouldn’t be acceptable to discuss disabled people in an essay without engaging with disabled people. It wouldn’t be acceptable to write about women and the church without engaging with women. I’m pleased that the Doctrine Committee are looking into this area but it seems a terribly disappointing methodology. I asked a question about this but didn’t really feel I got a very good answer. More heartening was an assurance from an Evangelical chum who takes a different view on such things to me that he thought it was a very good question to ask and that it was obvious that those being written about in such an essay needed to be engaged with.
    • It was obvious that the Bishops generally seem to be getting on with one another. That hasn’t always been the case and I know that they will have their stresses and strains beyond the public gaze. There was quite a lot of knock about comedy which can be a little trying after a while and makes it very difficult to have a real debate about some things that matter. For example, we heard, in a way we couldn’t argue with, of churches using the Reserved Sacrament in a way that I think irregular and which I suspect breaches the agreed bishops’ guidelines. Yet this was in a very jolly comedy routine by bishops. There may be a danger in people thinking that they can justify any behaviour at all in the church if they happen to be in Episcopal orders and uttering the words “Whole Church Mission and Ministry Policy”. We are back to the question of the limits of diversity and the appropriate extent of conformity really. We always are.
    • I found some of the claims being made for a renewed diaconate in a new discussion paper that was launched rather disappointing. It is entirely appropriate that the diaconate is discussed, but I do wish we had a moratorium on people making the claim that a particular form of ministry will in some way renew the church because that form of ministry has a particular, vital (and oddly ill-defined) relation to mission. One has heard over the years the same claims being made for lay ministry, local collaborative ministry, lay reader ministry, ministers in secular employment, authorised lay ministry, etc. It isn’t merely silly; it makes talking about mission (which is a rather interesting idea of introducing people to the God so that they encounter love, joy, grace and transformation in a way that they couldn’t otherwise) all seem rather boring.
    • Isaac Poobalan made an urgent request that we take the statistics more seriously. I backed that up with the suggestion that the statistics (and a report interpreting them) be received each year at Synod. For some of our dioceses they are rather encouraging really. Moray and Argyll, for example. For other parts of the church they are cause for real concern.
    • The mood of the Synod this year was generally contented. There was not much friction. We needed Synod to be like that so we could throw the Covenant out convincingly, decisively and overwhelmingly. The Covenant doesn’t represent the kind of church we are. A year ago, many were surprised that there was no support for the Covenant when we had our discussion groups. A couple of years ago it was presumed we would probably sign up and that the vote would be fairly narrow and very bad-tempered. In the end it was neither. It was good to see the Bishops generally voting with the other houses in voting it out. So very different to the Episcopal and Synodical life of a neighbouring Province…

    What else? Anyone else who was there want to contribute? Anyone who wasn’t there want to comment or ask anything?

56 responses to “Six things I have learned about anti-semitism and the church”

  1. Jacqui Norman Avatar
    Jacqui Norman

    Dear Kevin,
    I am sure that some Jews would be offended, and this is very sad on every level. Just as it would be sad for Christians to object to non Christians celebrating Christmas or Resurrection Day.
    In your piece you said yourself, that some Jewish people invite Christian people to join them for the meals. This demonstrates that the offence to Gentiles celebrating with their Jewish brothers and sisters is not universal in the faith.
    Blessings.

    1. Kelvin Avatar

      No Jacqui. It is considered a blessing in Judaism to include others in the ritual of passover. This does not justify Christians copying it without Jews being present, appropriating the ceremony to make it something entirely Christian and in doing so causing offence. It is not the same in any way as Christians objecting or not to non-Christians celebrating Christmas.

      If you wish to follow the line of saying that Christian Passovers are not offensive to all Jewish people, then can I ask what proportion of Jewish people you think it is legitimate for Christians to be offensive to? How many is OK?

      1. Jacqui Norman Avatar
        Jacqui Norman

        Of course one would not wish to offend anybody.
        I feel we must graciously agree to disagree, I see no difference to the Christmas/Resurrection Day comparison… We disagree on this one point from your piece.
        God bless you.

        1. Kelvin Avatar

          > We disagree on this one point from your piece.

          So what you’re saying is that anti-semitic things that other people do are wrong but things that you do can’t be anti-semitic because you do them with good intent in your heart?

          Isn’t that what the problem is?

          1. Jacqui Norman Avatar
            Jacqui Norman

            WOW what a leap!
            No, of course it is not what I am saying… It is the opposite!
            Your opinion is that Christians should not engage with the Old Testament. Mine is that it is divisive NOT to. As you said Jesus is Jewish, we are his body …
            I have never had a conversation with a Jew who has expressed your opinion about this matter.
            I asked you politely about this aspect of your opinion, and you have made a personal attack at me(whom you do not know) and called me an anti Semite when nothing could be further from the truth. Now, that kind of thing IS where the problem lies.
            Blessings to you.

          2. Kelvin Avatar

            Don’t be ridiculous, Jacqui. My opinion is not that Christians should not engage with the Old Testament.

            If you can’t post things truthfully then I’ll not allow further comment.

      2. Martin Reynolds Avatar
        Martin Reynolds

        I would ask the opposite question.
        How many need to be offended?
        Just one?

        This argument seems to be in the mode of
        “Christians shouldn’t practice yoga.” school of thought.

        1. Kelvin Avatar

          There’s a difference isn’t there? Most people wanting to stop Christians practicing yoga think that they should take that view because it will harm Christian souls rather because it will harm Hindu feelings.

          1. Martin Reynolds Avatar
            Martin Reynolds

            It depends which Hindu you talk to.

          2. Kelvin Avatar

            Can you point me to an argument coming from someone in the Hindu community who believes that Christians and non-Hindus should refrain from practising yoga? I’m genuinely interested.

        2. Martin Reynolds Avatar
          Martin Reynolds

          I will try and point you in the right direction.

  2. Alexander Hamilton Avatar
    Alexander Hamilton

    Wel now that was a jolly good read. Thank you to all contributers, some thought provoking matters raised, with of course no conclusion, and properly so. So much is a matter of personal belief and practise, no matter how bedecked and caparisoned the chuch one attends. I find myself sayng, ‘What would Jesus say?’ when watching the next best thing to pantomime at some services.

    1. Jacqui Norman Avatar
      Jacqui Norman

      Amen

  3. Jacqui Norman Avatar
    Jacqui Norman

    Ps, In my opinion, the fact that “Passover is not important to most Christians ” is due to a lack of good teaching on the subject. It is not possible to fully appreciate the work of Jesus, (who in you picture, notably does not have the “Jewish nose” – very much enforcing your point that people do not appreciate that Jesus was (is!) a Jew, and with which I wholeheartedly agree with you) without first understanding the Old Testament story in its fullness.

    I would also like to emphasise that this is the only one of your points with which I disagree 🙂

  4. Jacqui Norman Avatar
    Jacqui Norman

    From the homepage:

    Disclaimer
    The views published here are my own and do not necessarily represent the views of St Mary’s Catheral nor the Scottish Episcopal Church.

    Nor do they represent what I’ll think forever.

    I change my mind sometimes – especially when persuaded of something by someone in debate.

    Try me and see.

    Maybe that should read “Try me and get called ridiculous ”

    Very sad.

    1. Kelvin Avatar

      Jacqui – this is my blog space. You don’t get to post untruthful things about me on it.

      Whether you like that or not doesn’t really matter to me it is the way it is.

      No further comments from you.

  5. Dion Smythe Avatar
    Dion Smythe

    Christian “seders” are comparable to Jewish [re]appropriation of the Eurcharistic texts and reciting them [with some notable omissions] at Kiddush after the Sabbath morning service….

    1. Meg Rosenfeld Avatar
      Meg Rosenfeld

      As a Christian who once visited a conservative synagogue where they did this, I was surprised and pleased to find this activity that was so much like ours, taking place. It seemed home-like. My daughter, then a teen-ager, had the same reaction. We were both thinking “Now I see where this part of our ritual comes from.” After all, Jesus (a Jew) was probably following very familiar tradition when he, as we say, instituted the Eucharist; he just said some new and startling things.

      1. Dion Smythe Avatar
        Dion Smythe

        Meg, I think you’ll find that what you witnesses at a conservative Jewish synagogue was the standard Kiddush after the Sabbath morning service — blessings over wine and bread and then the sharing of the same. What I was suggesting was that these Christian “Seders” would be comparable to Jewish congregations celebrating Christian Eucharists but with the important words left out [or indeed maybe even not] rather than the comparison between Christian “Seders” and Jews [or other non Christians] celebrating or marking the celebrations of Christmas or Easter, but not going so far as to have a parody of the Christian Eucharist.

        1. Meg Rosenfeld Avatar
          Meg Rosenfeld

          Hmm. since I’ve never seen the sort of thing you’re describing, I can’t really make an intelligent comment. It’s difficult to think of a literal parody of a Christian ritual (except maybe in the case of a group of kids “playing church”) other than the secular Santa-centered goings-on which seem to be increasingly taking over the holy day commonly known as Christmas . . .

  6. Meg Rosenfeld Avatar
    Meg Rosenfeld

    Back to St. John, sometimes I can’t help wondering what Jesus would say if he heard some of John’s more convoluted pronouncements. What’s the Aramaic for “Huh?”

  7. James Byron Avatar
    James Byron

    Regarding offensiveness: surely Christianity’s central claim, that Jesus of Nazareth was God in human form, is deeply offensive to Judaism.

    Further, offense isn’t a knockdown argument. It just means that someone strongly objects to something. Many evangelicals find gay relationships offensive; many Calvinists find Arminianism offensive, and so on. Such feelings say nothing for the merits of the view.

    The key question isn’t whether X is offensive, but whether the objections are reasonable and compelling enough to justify ending it.

    1. Dennis Avatar
      Dennis

      Once again, we have a problem with most of western society having forgotten the difference between disagreeing with and being offended by. Offensiveness is most certainly not just when someone strongly objects to something. Calvinists don’t or shouldn’t find Armenianism offensive, though they disagree with it. It is merely a competing theory that divides evangelicals. But a play or novel that presented John Calvin as pimp who ran a brothel on the side and committed sex crimes with little boys would be offensive because it would be a false characterization meant to belittle and demean. So-called Christian seders are more like the sex-crime pimp John Calvin example than the disgreement with non-predestinationist types example – and would therefore be offensive.

  8. Bernard Randall Avatar
    Bernard Randall

    At the risk of re-opening a can of worms, it seems to me a mistake to suggest that passover is not important to Christians. The death of the firstborn Son, the crossing of the people through the waters etc – the whole Exodus narrative – are deeply part of Christian theology. It’s an inescapable background to much in the New Testament (Sermon on the Mount as reflecting Moses on Sinai, or Jesus (in John’s Gospel) being crucified at the same time as the Passover lambs are sacrificed, anyone?).
    So to take just a few liturgical examples, in “Common Worship” material for Easter season, the introduction to confessional starts “Christ our Passover lamb has been sacrificed for us …”; the Eucharistic prefaces say “he is the true paschal lamb” or “in the joy of this Passover”; and the invitation to Communion is “Alleluia. Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us. Therefore let us keep the feast. Alleluia.”
    Fine, that’s Church of England, not everyone will be saying those particular words, but the theology is front and centre.
    To this extent the passover story belongs just as much to Christianity as to Rabbinic Judaism. But the passover story in the Bible is not the same as the Passover religious observance/festival of modern Judaism.
    Indeed I thoroughly object to Christians celebrating a Seder meal, because it isn’t what Jesus did – both because the Seder as we have it is a later development, and because the Last Supper quite likely wasn’t a Passover meal. A “Christian Seder” doesn’t connect us to anything historically, while we have the Eucharist (and Maundy foot washing) to connect theologically to what Jesus did at the Last Supper.
    I don’t think that being offensive alone is a reason not do something with another more positive purpose, but in the case of a “Christian Seder” the offense is caused to no good purpose and so the case against is fatal. It ought not to be done.

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

Previous Posts

  • Sunday Sermon 12/10/03 The Rich Young Man

    Let us tell the story here. Imagine the scene. There is a rich young man. He has made his fortune. Footballer. Every time he gets his hair cut, it makes the front page of the tabloids. You know his face. You know his wife?s face. She is a pop-star. They have a couple of beautiful…

  • Bishop Michael

    I heard this morning that Bishop Michael Henley has announced his retirement date. [Well actually I heard it from a member of Glasgow diocese yesterday afternoon – I am pretending to myself that I heard the news today]. He will retire in July next year. Bishop Michael will have completed more than 10 years as…

  • Two eyed fundamentalists

    One of the o­nly ways of dealing with fundamentalism is by laughing. I heard this as part of an o­nline sermon today -“Never trust a fundamentalist with two eyes.”The preacher was preaching a couple of weeks ago o­n the bit where Jesus tells people to tear out their eyes or cut off their limbs if…

  • Legal

    What a change the internet makes. I have just read the name of the Leeds United sportsperson who is being held on rape charges – the mainstream media is unable to broadcast his name due to legal restrictions, yet anyone with internet access can read it very easily indeed. The internet means everything changes, including…