• While the shepherds at night were a-watching

    While the shepherds at night were a-watching
    Where their flocks in the fields were abiding
    Th’angel of the Lord came and stood down beside them
    Opened his mouth and then greatly surprised them:
    “Shine Jesus shine. Shine Jesus shine”
    [Chorus]

    Fear not said he for dread had seized them mightily
    Minds were troubled, they all worried frightfully
    I bring you tidings of gladness eternally
    Dance with joy and with me sing supernally…
    “Shine Jesus Shine. Shine Jesus Shine.
    [Chorus]

    Unto you is born now a saviour
    Who is Christ the Lord and he made you.
    He’s of David’s line, a descendent
    Sing now to him for his sign is transcendent:
    “Shine Jesus Shine. Shine Jesus Shine.”
    [Chorus]

    You shall find the heavenly babe there
    To human view he looks lovely and very fair
    All simply wrapped in bands that are swaddling
    Sing to the child in the manger, the Godling:
    “Shine Jesus Shine. Shine Jesus Shine”.
    [Chorus]

    Thus the angel spoke and suddenly
    Throngs of angels appeared singing utterly
    Beautiful music, their praises lasted long
    As they sang forth they repeated the glorious song:
    “Shine Jesus Shine. Shine Jesus Shine”
    [Chorus]

    “Glory be now to God in the highest
    Peace to God’s people” they sang without shyness
    Unto those upon whom his favour rests
    With goodwill, may this song be ever blessed:
    “Shine Jesus Shine. Shine Jesus Shine”
    [Chorus]

7 responses to “10 Discussion Points about the Church and Virtual Reality”

  1. Tim Avatar

    Hear here. (Especially the evolutionary point.)

  2. chris Avatar

    …or even “hear hear”! Very pertinent in my neck of the woods, where the cyber-poor and the cyber-dinosaurs have their abode (and the second category is not necessarily related to the first other than in outcome).

  3. Pam Smith Avatar

    Excellent points.

    I’ve been working in online Christian communities quite a while, and I’ve observed a couple of things that I think replicate mistakes in offline evangelism:

    1) ‘Success’ is equated with numbers of followers not the quality of the interactions. So a lot of energy can be put into building up a following regardless of who the followers are. This often means attracting Christians who aren’t normally very interested in being online to your online project, rather than trying to make your online Christian project appealing to people who spend a lot of time online.

    2) Events that are geared towards using the online media for evangelism and outreach almost always end up being evangelistic about online media not about Christianity

  4. Steve Murray Avatar
    Steve Murray

    I can’t access the blog to post comments – does this mean cyberpoverty may also stem from corporate repression? [These comments posted by Kelvin by request via email]

    My ‘cyberpoverty’ is a deliberate choice – I sit in front of a computer all day so have deliberately chosen not to be online at home. Is this really a societal evil … ?

    The web is already beset by megaphones and proverbial empty vessels can make the most noise – how do we distinguish between volume and quality – I can follow thousands of religious twitterings but who filters out the distortion? – c.f. The Guardian which is in the process of shedding journalists and filling its pages with ‘comment is free’ – aye, and you get what you pay for . . .

    You do already provide ministries for the cyberpoor – they’re called churches – they have gravitas, space for quiet reflection, sanctuary from information overload, and a community – long may they continue.

    Will there be a paywall to fund the virtual church – or will it be forced to rely on commercial sponsorship? A reading from the book of Numbers, brought to you in association with Lehman Brothers.

  5. […] Kelvin is asking good questions again about the theology and praxis of The Church and Virtual Reality.  He sets out questions enough for several doctoral thesis, but it was this that caught my eye.  […]

  6. Eric Stoddart Avatar
    Eric Stoddart

    Two important aspects that I suggest need to be added to your list, Kelvin.
    (a) the monetarisation of cyberspace, especially of social networking (making money out of ‘friendship’ is a big business), and
    (b) the effects of social networking as a means of surveillance (that’s lateral, between friends, as well as by mega-corporations); how is our behaviour being modified by the collection of, and categorisation by, our personal data?

  7. kelvin Avatar

    Thanks, Eric, yes.

    And important to recognise that the church is in the business of calling on people in relationship with it to cough up money too. It isn’t just big business.

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