• Predictions for 2020

    1. Scotland will not vote for Independence in 2020
    2. No progress for those hoping for Equal Marriage in the Church of England.
    3. Narrow Democrat victory in American election – country as divided as ever – widespread belief that the election was rigged.
    4. Scottish government proposals on reforming the Gender Recognition Act go through largely as proposed in consultation document.
    5. Limited agreements at COP talks but derided as too little too late.
    6. UK leaves the EU and is subsequently unable to agree a substantial deal.
    7. No trade deal with the USA
    8. Yvette Cooper will become the leader of the Labour Party.
    9. Stock market lower at the end of the year than it is today.  (FTSE 7,542.44)
    10. Increasing visible support for LGBT Roman Catholics from within the Roman Catholic Church.

10 responses to “Tented Villages”

  1. TIm Avatar

    This would be fine & well if one has reason to believe one’s cathedral to be under some kind of threat.

    I don’t see that being the case in St Paul’s – the evidence I’ve seen so far is that the various Occupations have been entirely peaceful apart from when the police start bullying them. The published “uh, think of the fire hazard” document reads like the most specious excuse they could invent to justify playing victim – let’s not forget it’s *their own* front door they’ve *chosen* to shut in the face of population, diocesan Mission directives notwithstanding. It’s about being Establishment versus free natives of the planet with a Christian-compatible social & justice message; I see St Paul’s have chosen their side.

    1. kelvin Avatar

      I must admit that for all my liberal instincts and progressive values, I don’t see this issue as being nearly so clear cut as that.

  2. Uncle Al Avatar

    I wonder what Oscar Romero would have done?

    1. kelvin Avatar

      Probably call the nation’s attention to the scandal of poverty. Unlike any of the players in this drama so far.

  3. william Avatar
    william

    Point to explore:
    When Jesus said – that the poor we would always have with us – what point do you consider he was making, and therefore would want to make to us today in the UK, about the scandal of poverty?

  4. Zebadee Avatar
    Zebadee

    Dear William It is not a question of what others would do about the scandel of poverty the question is what are YOU doing about it? Having worked at a drop in centre and at other places that attempt to deal with this problem in the UK I know that there are no easy answers but have come to a conclusion that it is an individual responce more than a corporate one.

  5. Agatha Avatar
    Agatha

    William, perhaps Jesus was well ahead of himself and was referring to relative poverty. My grandfather’s family were so poor he trapped rabbits, his brother got ends of bread from the vicarage and another brother picked up the vegetables that had got dropped on the ground from market stalls. A century later and the “poor” organise protests via blackberry.

  6. Ryan Avatar
    Ryan

    Agatha,

    Isn’t that still progress of sorts, or should we be pining for the days of absolute poverty in the UK? Poverty, absolute or otherwise, is surely always worth challenging?

    Gap Yah types and their blackberry diversions will probably be with us always too, alas.

  7. Rosemary Hannah Avatar
    Rosemary Hannah

    More flat-footedly, Jesus’s remark was in a context – a perceptive woman in a moment of love and gratitude, seeing the cost of her brother’s having been liberated from death, poured an entire jar of expensive anointing perfume over his feet. Judas carped. Jesus defended the woman: the moment was right, the action prophetic. That does not mean Jesus wanted to keep the poor poor. He was saying that if Judas felt that strongly about their plight he would have plenty of time to take action over it. That moment, that particular moment, belonged to Jesus. We no longer have his physical feet, but we do still have his poor. We are not absolved from taking action in the world because we love him.

  8. Agatha Avatar
    Agatha

    Ryan, of course its progress. But lets not forget there are people in the world that are still in absolute poverty. And I know which I would rather champion, those without food and water, not those who can only afford a 32″ TV.

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