• How not to have a synodical discussion

    This afternoon I’ve been engaged in a discussion at the General Synod of the Scottish Episcopal Church about same-sex marriage. At least, that’s what it was supposed to be about. Often in the afternoon it felt like a discussion about how to have a discussion. (All of this was being facilitated by Hugh Donald of A Place for Hope initiative of the Church of Scotland NB correction from earlier text)

    We began by someone challenging the process by speaking against the motion to suspend the standing orders and go into a different mode of meeting. That challenge didn’t fly, but a quarter of the synod members didn’t want to go into small groups. That’s quite a high proportion of dissatisfied customers to begin with.

    We were then invited to listen to a conversation amongst some people who were part of a previous conversation at Pitlochry that had been limited to invited people only. Already we were into the territory of people feeling excluded from a process – at my table there were two of us who would have liked to have been at Pitlochry but who had found ourselves excluded from it.

    The conversation that we were invited to watch went on for a bit and they all agreed that Pitlochry had been wonderful and transformative. (Guess what that feels like if you’ve been excluded!) However it was difficult to hear much about what they had talked about at Pitlochry.

    But the worst thing from my point of view is that this conversation that we were invited to witness had no participant who was ordained and gay.

    It was the antithesis of the principle that you don’t speak about people without including them in the conversation. There were plenty of ordained people  who happen to be gay in the room too – just not invited to be part of that conversation.

    Then we went into table groups where we were expected to talk about gay people’s personal lives without having any warning of what the questions would be and without any reference to the fact that straight people have a sexuality too. (The questions very clearly made gay people the problem the church was trying to solve).

    For some reason, the people who went to Pitlochry who had a great time there who have come back saying how much wonderful listening was going on are finding it terribly difficult to listen to those who were not there or who have any criticism of the process.

    At the end of all this, bumping into some of my gay friends in the room, I saw one brushing back tears (and I knew they were fury tears not just ordinary upset tears), another was still fizzing about the questions and was heading off to have a go at one of the bishops about how manipulative it had been, another with his head in his hands saying “how long can this go on” and another patiently trying to explain to straight liberal so-called allies why being asked to wait another year (yet again) did not feel like a step forward.

    Rounding off this session of the Cascade process, the Primus spoke of how well it was being conducted and how well it was going.

    He does not walk in my shoes.

11 responses to “Blogroll”

  1. Tim Avatar

    (Yeah, I’ve given up on wittering. Transpires Q, in which I wrote that thing, was too CPU-intensive for the poor wee colo-server to cope with when bots came knocking, so it had to go; it’s all-but a dead language now anyway…)

  2. kelvin Avatar

    There are easier ways to host a blog, Tim…

  3. Coxy Avatar
    Coxy

    Mental. On my ‘to do’ list for today was to write a ‘back blogging’ post…

    Very strange!

  4. kelvin Avatar

    Think of it as the Holy Spirit, Nick.

    Or alternatively think of it as synchronicity as many of the rest of us might do.

    Glad you are coming back.

  5. FrPaulB Avatar
    FrPaulB

    David Campbell’s blog has long since moved to here:
    http://limpingtowardsthesunrise.wordpress.com/

    1. kelvin Avatar

      So it does. Thanks, I’ve updated the link.

      I usually read Fr David’s blog in google reader. What an exotic layout it has in real life!

  6. David Campbell Avatar

    My dears, I can only wish I were as exotic in real life!

  7. ryan Avatar
    ryan

    Hope Nick starts blogging again too! He did a post reviewing The Dark Knight once, which is more down-wit’-da-kidz than highfalutin’ praepostorial theatre reviews 😉 (that said, do hope you do The Habit of Art! :-))

  8. John McLuckie Avatar
    John McLuckie

    Thanks Kelvin, I’ll have a look at the rss thing – it’s all a bit new to me still!
    J

    1. kelvin Avatar

      Thanks John – you’ve already got a nicely behaving rss feed for your content but I can’t find one for comments.

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